Thursday, December 24, 2009

Victim scammed by bidpax of 800-1000 dollars!

Another Singaporean victim has been scammed by bidpax. Tell your friends beware of the scam!!! Read the full story here of the 800-1000 dollars lost.

Wednesday, December 23, 2009

Is Bidpax using bidbots? Yes, says one victim

After getting scammed by bidpax, this user decided to pull off some data for an analysis.

I've copied his posting below. His post is available at newmyanmar.com. Read about his experience of finding bidpax fishy here

Recently I have been the scammed by bidpax.com (formerly known as ipennybid.com and bidvoo.com).

You can read my first post on how I ended up buying bids. Now that I got cheated, I am trying to find out how they cheat it and how I can cheat them back. I can probably win the bid by cheating but I can’t do anything if they don’t send you what you your winning items. So, all I can do is file a complaint.

After doing research for sometime, I can safely assume that they have bid agents. How do I find out? let me show you.

Username Items Number of Bids Link
1Time Kodak EasyShare Digital Picture Frame 66 2046
1Time Breville Espresso Maker 51 2148
1Time Whirlpool Duet Electric Dryer 900 2149
1Time Nokia N97 453 2359
segnon Need for Speed: Shift (CD) 32 2006
segnon Sonicare FlexCare Toothbrush 152 2015
segnon Sony Bravia 40 inch 228 2197
segnon Operation Flashpoint 129 2443
rebecca92 Sony Bravia 40 Inch LCD 425 2057
rebecca92 1 Ounce Gold 413 2083
rebecca92 Delonghi 14 Cup Drip Coffee Maker 34 2164
rebecca92 1 Ounce Gold 82 2433
ncollis Samsung TL225 Digital Camera 298 2076
ncollis Sony Clock 60 2120
ncollis 1 Ounce gold 337 2349
ncollis Kodak EasyShare digital Picture Frame 272 2538
jared9 Sonicare FlexCare Toothbrush 32 2053
jared9 Nikon D90 1970 2070
jared9 Nikon D90 332 2128
jared9 Delonghi 14 Cup Drip Coffee Maker 222 2513

Well, I haven’t check much. But these guys freaking Win 4 items in about 2 days. Too much to be coincident? Thats the way their system works?

From the log above, you can easily see that those are their bid agents. They got unlimited bids and they just sit there and bid all the way and win most items themself. So, whatever real bidder spend on bidding on their site is their net income. I am not sure how long the links will work. But those link direct you to their page about that specific items with the winner name in it. After seeing my post, they might get wiped out.

And from my research, they change to new username everyday. But occasionally old username pop up but a bit rare. I have yet to see any user winning 5 items. so far, 4 is max for their bid agents. (yet again, i checked for only 300 records. 90% of the winner (their own bid agents) win 2 or 3 items but I just listed a few 4 items winners.

I am not sure what other prove they need. This is as far as I can gather information as normal user. But who knows, one day, I can hack into their system.

A New Zealander was scammed!

Another unwitting user got hit by bidpax. It was the same for me after I rationalize and logicalize how I can beat the system and win, not knowing that bidpax has programmed bidbots to outbid real bidders to scam them. A user has reported that bidpax is using a customizable bidding system that includes bidbots option to automatically bid till a certain amount. More details of that soon.

Click here for full story of the New Zealander victim of bidpax scam